My clients ask such great questions! This is one I get a lot. I've decided to make my answer into a blog, so more can use this technique.
Related: Why You Need To Negotiate More Than Just Your Salary
Here is the question:
“I had an interview last week for a job I think I would love, but I think the salary and benefits will be too low. I'm wondering if there is a tactful way to get to the heart of what the salary and benefits would be sooner rather than later. They are a company of ten people and don't have an HR dept."
That is such a tricky situation! I have good news and bad news about it.
Bad News
When faced with the dilemma of deciding whether to talk about salary or not, it's best to NOT. Asking about money before the position is offered to you is too soon. It's the kiss of death in an interview.
If you do, you can count on not being offered anything. You will blow your chances of being hired. When it comes to salary negotiation, the first person to bring it up always loses. That's just the way the game is played. So, don't ask. (Not your interviewers, anyway...)
Good News
You can find out more info in a less direct way. You could talk to others who work there, not involved in the interviewing process, but since this company is so small, I wouldn't recommend that.
The alternative is to research folks who used to work at the company, using LinkedIn. Reach out to them, and ask them gently about salary. After building a bit of a relationship so that it's not rude, of course.
You might e-mail a contact something like this, "Hi Wanda, I see you used to work for XYZ organization. I am currently interviewing with them for a sales position. I am reaching out to you in the hopes that you might be able to help me learn more about what it's like to work there. Would you have 10 minutes for me to call you and ask you some quick questions?"
NO mention of salary. But, on the phone, after you ask some questions about company culture, day-to-day responsibilities, and so on, if things are going well, you can ask, "I know this is sensitive, but in your experience, is the salary competitive for the market here in Madison?"
If you go ahead and directly ask the salary question, you will be perceived as rude or jumping the gun. To use the dating analogy, it's akin to asking for sex too soon in the dating process. You just have to do your research covertly and see how things play out.
So, what do you do if it turns out that the salary isn't enough? You could consider withdrawing your application, but that might not reflect well on you professionally, either. It's probably best to complete the process, as if you don't have this concern at all. Go into the negotiations confidently, and deal with it as it comes if things start to fall through.
If the company can't meet your needs, you can always politely say that you've appreciated learning about their company and opportunity, but you've decided you want to pursue other options.
You could also just be honest about what your needs are. I like that route, because it opens the door for you to get ideas from the interviewer in continuing your job search. You might say, "I love the idea of working here. It fits my personal philosophy and the work would suit my strengths. I appreciate the offer, but I'm afraid that my salary needs are higher than this offer."
Take it a step beyond the talk about salary for an extra career boost: “Knowing what you know about me now, after this process, do you know of any other organizations in our field that might need a person with my talents? Who do you recommend I connect with next?"
Perhaps you know of someone who would be perfect for them, too, and can give them a lead. "You know, I have a co-worker who is considering a change. Now that I know so much about your company, I think she'd be a great fit. Would you like me to give her your contact information so she may apply for the position?"
Always be open to helping them out. It says something about a person when you can end an interviewing process having helped the company in some way, without seeking anything in return. It's a small world. They may remember you for that and come calling when they've got more money. You never know how things will work out.
Remember, interviews are just meetings with people. You're both just seeing if it's a good fit. If it turns out the situation isn't right for either party, for any reason, don't leave it there. Forget about the salary and see what more can be gained from the time you spent with them so that you can more effectively continue your search.
This post was originally published at an earlier date.
Kristin S. Johnson is a TORI award-winning, 6-times certified resume writer, job search coach, and social media consultant. Her approach is cutting-edge, creative, and kind. As owner of Profession Direction, LLC, she works with professionals and aspiring executives across the country.
Disclosure: This post is sponsored by a CAREEREALISM-approved expert.
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Look, I'm just going to say it. Not everybody should work for themselves. Right now, there's this huge craze about working independently, being self-employed, being your own boss. So much of this came out of the pandemic because people realized they wanted to have control over their careers and not be at the mercy of their employers' needs. But if you're looking to take control of your career, becoming self-employed is not always the best solution.
Still, there are many benefits to being self-employed. Let's take a look at those benefits before I dive into how you can take control of your career without having to quit your job and take on self-employment.
Benefits Of Being Self-Employed
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Self-employment isn't for everyone, but if it's right for you, you'll likely reap these benefits:
Independence - No boss, no problem! As a freelancer or independent contractor, you won't have to answer to anybody but yourself and your customers.
Control - Being self-employed is a great way to regain control of your career. You get to control your pay rates/salary, the jobs/projects you work on, and when you sit down at the computer and get the work done.
Flexibility - Life is unpredictable. If work-life balance and flexibility are important to you, you'll likely enjoy one of the best benefits of being self-employed: having the ability to structure your workday how you want to.
Satisfaction - When you're a freelancer or independent contractor, you can pick and choose which jobs you take, eliminating the work you don't find inspiring or meaningful so you can focus on the work that does inspire you and align with your passions.
Freedom - You're free from the "golden handcuffs" that have held you hostage in your career up to this point.
As you can see, there are many benefits of being self-employed. Self-employment has a lot to offer professionals who are self-disciplined, responsible, good at time management, and self-motivated. If this sounds like you, and you're willing to give up traditional employment for the chance to be more in control of your career, why not give self-employment a try?
The decision to embark on self-employment is not always that easy...
Working For Yourself Gives You More Control (But Is That Right For You?)
Twenty years ago, it was all about getting a corporate job. You didn't hear a lot about entrepreneurship back then, but nowadays everyone is talking about it. It almost feels like if you aren't self-employed or own your own business, or if you don't at least have the desire to do those things, there's something wrong with you.
Not true.
A lot of people were not built for self-employment. But they also don't want to go back to the traditional work environment where the employer is at the top and they're at the bottom wearing golden handcuffs and feeling like they have no control over their career or future. And I get that. I think that's why 40 million people quit their jobs in 2021—because they're frustrated. But not all of those 40 million people should be their own boss.
So, what do you do?
You Can Take Control Of Your Career Without Becoming Self-Employed
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Well, for the last 20 years, I have been teaching people how to become "Workplace Renegades." A Workplace Renegade is an anti-employer. They're about empowering themselves so that they can build a decent relationship with their employer. They want to work with the employer, not for them. They want trust and respect. They want to attract the opportunities that are best for them. And it still means working a full-time job with benefits—that structure that a lot of people need. In return, you're giving the employer what they need.
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Every hiring manager looks for different skills in the job candidates they're hoping to hire. Not only are job candidates being evaluated on the hard skills they possess; they're also being evaluated on their soft skills—the skills that don't belong on a resume but can be identified during a job interview. It's these soft skills that separate the good employees from the great ones. Executives, managers, and other leaders within an organization keep this in mind when interviewing job candidates and reviewing the performance of current employees.
We recently asked our leading executives what's the number one skill they need to see in every employee who works for them.
Here are their responses...
John Schembari, Senior Education Executive
Growth mindset. We live in a world of constant change. Even the best-laid plans are often shifted due to unexpected circumstances. For example. educators had no choice but to switch to teaching remotely during the pandemic. There was no time to become comfortable with the technology first—we had to dive in! To remain profitable, many companies also need to reconfigure services and/or products from time to time and the most successful employees are those who are always open to learning new things. One can teach skills—the core competencies needed to do a job in many cases. However, it is not as easy to get inside someone's head and affect an employee's will unless one is able to tap into that employee's intrinsic motivations. When a growth mindset is already present, this makes any change—even difficult ones—just a tad easier to implement.
John Schembari is a current K-12 teacher/school leader academic improvement coach and former school building and district administrator. He loves to draw, travel, swing dance, and read nonfiction.
John Cox, Advertising & Marketing Executive
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Curiosity is one of the top things I need out of each of my team members.
That is, they must possess an acknowledgment of the fact that no one of us knows everything and they must be curious in proactively seeking out new knowledge to add to their personal toolboxes.
In my team’s work on brand development and activation, and more specifically, digital marketing, it especially holds true that the industry, best practices, and tools used are ever changing and evolving. Maybe that involves consuming the latest books, blogs, podcasts, or following subject matter experts on LinkedIn.
In total, each team member must really have a passion for lifelong learning and constantly seek out new ways to stretch and grow in their own expertise and in the execution of their work.
John Cox has 20+ years of performance excellence in advertising and marketing, leveraging Google-certified skill sets in pay-per-click (PPC) advertising and paid search strategy, web planning and conversion measurement, and creative direction and graphic design.
Mark Taylor, Product & Operations Executive
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Clear, concise written communication. Less is more.
For example, when it comes to project status “decks,” my expectation is no more than one page (two at a push). So:
1) On-point title: sets the scene.
2) Background: one or two single-sentence bullets (the story so far).
3) Status: three to five single-sentence bullets detailing tasks completed since the last update (bad news first please).
4) Next steps: two to three bullets detailing key tasks to be done next (win my trust by making sure that these tasks are clearly reflected in the “Status” section when we have the update next time).
Make removing every word from the deck until it stops making sense a game.
And don’t confuse ruthless editing with time wasted on “perfection.” The process of creating crystal clear prose with no excess fat is a pathway for you to get a deeper understanding of the project’s current challenges.
Mark Taylor has 20+ years of risk, technology, and product management experience working in global and regional financial services firms in the UK and the U.S. He's managed teams of 40+, successfully addressed 100+ regulatory issues, and has saved companies $15M+.
Steve Barriault, Global Technical Sales Management
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Resilience in front of adversity.
Look, sales and field engineering are not for the faint of heart. They can often be exhilarating, but there is no doubt that they can be hard.
Each time that you step into a new account (or even an existing one), life can throw you a curveball. The budget you thought was there for your project is gone. The client forgot to tell you one key factor in their development environment that will make your deployment hell—assuming they knew anything about it at all.
Oh, and you travel for work? What do you do when the airline throws a wrench in your plans?
Trust me, I went through it all.
The best sales and field engineers are the ones that can deal with this. When facing a seemingly insurmountable challenge, they make a plan, execute, and when they fail—and fail they will!—they try again. And again. And again. Until it works or the clock times out.
No experience? I can deal with this with education. You made a mistake at times? If you never did, I would say you are not trying hard enough.
But when the going gets tough, you can't stop and get discouraged. And that needs to come from you.
Steve Barriault is a multilingual presales, sales, and business development management professional with 20+ years of experience in the sales and marketing of software & technological solutions worldwide. He's built sales infrastructure from the ground up, going from $0 to millions of $ through both direct sales and distributors.
Lisa Perry, Global Marketing Executive
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The most important skill I look for in an employee is their willingness to learn. This includes being open-minded to new ideas, sharing their thoughts and insights with co-workers, and being able to think on their feet and solve problems at a moment’s notice, with a “can-do” attitude. These skills are crucial for an employee’s personal and professional growth and contribute to the company's overall success. The willingness to learn allows employees to adapt to new challenges, develop creative solutions to problems, and continuously improve their skills and knowledge. It also helps to foster a culture of innovation and improvement throughout the organization.
As an employee, focusing on your willingness to learn is essential to staying relevant in your career while maintaining a competitive edge in the marketplace. As the business world is constantly evolving, employees need to be able to adapt and acquire new skills and knowledge to stay current and relevant in their field. Learning new skills also enable employees to be proactive in identifying and addressing challenges and opportunities, which can lead to greater success for both the employee and the company.
Lisa Perry helps companies build leadership brands, driving loyal customers & delivering profitability. She does this through a process that builds brands consumers love. Her goal is to help companies develop, monetize, and grow their brands.
Andrea Markowski, Marketing Executive
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Combining the many bits of knowledge and skills gathered over your life and applying them to your current work role can make you stand apart as a valuable asset.
For example, I learned a practical structure for theatrical acting and directing while in college. As a marketing director today, I use a modified version for a strategic framework.
How can this be? Well, both the art of theatre and the art of marketing possess crucial elements of audience psychology and message communication.
Would just any marketer know this tie-in? Probably not.
Is this something an employer would ever teach me? Nope.
When you successfully adapt a learned approach to a different function, you bring a fresh perspective through pattern recognition and critical reasoning.
Your ability to connect the dots from your past jobs and life experiences to your current role brings creativity and innovation that just can’t be taught. It is a skill I seek and highly encourage in team members.
Andrea Markowski is a marketing director with specializations in strategy development, digital tactics, design thinking, and creative direction. She has superpowers in presentations and public speaking.
Ana Smith, Talent Architect & Global Learning Strategist
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Self-awareness would be the skill that I would like to see in every employee I work with!
The main reason is that self-awareness is a mindful consciousness of your strengths, weaknesses, actions, and presence. And therefore, self-awareness requires having quite a clear perception of your mental and emotional states.
When you have a deep and meaningful self-awareness, it allows you to react to different situations and understand what triggers habitual responses for you, how you relate to other people, and why you feel the way you do toward certain individuals, amongst other areas.
Self-awareness is very important and can bring benefits in both your personal life and professional life. For example, it can help you identify what you like about your job and how to build a successful career path that can keep you motivated and fulfilled by your work.
How do you build this skill? These are a few ideas:
Assess your own capabilities - with a high level of self-awareness, you’ll see where you can excel and where you can grow.
Find a peer coach - someone you trust and respect who is willing to support you in your self-awareness journey.
Practice mindfulness - being aware of your surroundings without imposing any personal biases.
Be willing and open to receiving feedback - in order to grow you need to listen to different perspectives.
And let's not forget that like with any skill, it is a journey!
Ana Smith helps people & organizations achieve their full talent potential by developing and co-creating people strategies and customized solutions, and turning them into impactful outcomes and collaborative relationships, using coaching as the "red thread."
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